Comments on: The Bisected Teacher http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/09/14/the-bisected-teacher/ A Blog About Teaching in Tough Schools in the UK Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:10:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: oldandrew http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/09/14/the-bisected-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-1142 oldandrew Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:36:04 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/?p=229#comment-1142 Are you suggesting that cause and effect don't apply to children? Do you think they're time travellers? Fortune tellers? Do explain your point. Are you suggesting that cause and effect don’t apply to children? Do you think they’re time travellers? Fortune tellers? Do explain your point.

]]> By: Duncan http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/09/14/the-bisected-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-1140 Duncan Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:13:39 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/?p=229#comment-1140 Muddling cause and effect? Or just recognising the difference between children and adults? Muddling cause and effect? Or just recognising the difference between children and adults?

]]> By: misty1515 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/09/14/the-bisected-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-1112 misty1515 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:53:57 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/?p=229#comment-1112 This sounds like my first school where the message given to staff was 'if the pupils misbehave you are doing something wrong.' I remember my HoD telling me in my first term that I had to 'earn the children's respect,' by this he really meant that the pupils can muck teachers about until they decide a teacher is worth listening to. The same HoD let me know that the reason one foul yob threw chairs in the class was because the lesson was boring. The mum of the foul yob used the old chestnut of a 'personality clash'. As an NQT I remember feeling stressed and constantly worried that my lessons were boring but now I realise staff were blamed for awful behaviour because no one knew what to do about it. Funnily enough, the foul yob left school with no qualifications and the school can't get 30% A-C. This sounds like my first school where the message given to staff was ‘if the pupils misbehave you are doing something wrong.’ I remember my HoD telling me in my first term that I had to ‘earn the children’s respect,’ by this he really meant that the pupils can muck teachers about until they decide a teacher is worth listening to. The same HoD let me know that the reason one foul yob threw chairs in the class was because the lesson was boring. The mum of the foul yob used the old chestnut of a ‘personality clash’. As an NQT I remember feeling stressed and constantly worried that my lessons were boring but now I realise staff were blamed for awful behaviour because no one knew what to do about it.

Funnily enough, the foul yob left school with no qualifications and the school can’t get 30% A-C.

]]> By: Mr Teacher http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/09/14/the-bisected-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-1111 Mr Teacher Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:25:39 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/?p=229#comment-1111 This is a very good, thought-provoking post and I agree with much of what you have written. I don't get too much hassle these days - certainly less than most of my colleagues - and I believe that this is because I am well-organised, consistent and generally a mean bastard when I need to be. The good relationships that I have with my students are created from respect, perhaps fear, and develop from there as we get to know each other better. And sarcasm can be a wonderful tool. This is a very good, thought-provoking post and I agree with much of what you have written. I don’t get too much hassle these days – certainly less than most of my colleagues – and I believe that this is because I am well-organised, consistent and generally a mean bastard when I need to be. The good relationships that I have with my students are created from respect, perhaps fear, and develop from there as we get to know each other better. And sarcasm can be a wonderful tool.

]]> By: madoldbat http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/09/14/the-bisected-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-1110 madoldbat Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:37:44 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/?p=229#comment-1110 It is not confined to teaching.Health workers are constantly told that the reason Charlene (or whoever) is spitting abuse/ignoring the treatment plan/actively drug seeking is because of their (the health workers) lack of- communication skills/ability to engage/ability to generate a proper therapeutic relationship.It's obviously all our fault and quite unilateral which is odd when you consider how often the word partnership is invoked. It is not confined to teaching.Health workers are constantly told that the reason Charlene (or whoever) is spitting abuse/ignoring the treatment plan/actively drug seeking is because of their (the health workers) lack of- communication skills/ability to engage/ability to generate a proper therapeutic relationship.It’s obviously all our fault and quite unilateral which is odd when you consider how often the word partnership is invoked.

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