Comments on: The Driving Lesson Revisited http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/ A Blog About Teaching in Tough Schools in the UK Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:39:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: It’s Not Just Me | Scenes From The Battleground http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-929 It’s Not Just Me | Scenes From The Battleground Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:23:31 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-929 [...] this entry I expressed my disagreement with Steer’s (2006) claim that behaviour was effectively managed and [...] [...] this entry I expressed my disagreement with Steer’s (2006) claim that behaviour was effectively managed and [...]

]]> By: oldandrew http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-909 oldandrew Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:02:10 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-909 What gets me is that it appears to be just the latest in a long list of such reports by the great and the good. How many of the reports here made a difference: http://www.dg.dial.pipex.com/documents/index.shtml And those reports that did, how often would it have been better if they hadn't? What gets me is that it appears to be just the latest in a long list of such reports by the great and the good.

How many of the reports here made a difference:

http://www.dg.dial.pipex.com/documents/index.shtml

And those reports that did, how often would it have been better if they hadn’t?

]]> By: Andy http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-908 Andy Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:10:16 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-908 The Steer Report. What a joke! Page after page of platitudes from old duffers who have no experience of inner city schools. It offers no practical advice for teachers at the sharp end other than plan better lessons. For this pile of useless nonsense the man was given a knighthood! The Steer Report. What a joke! Page after page of platitudes from old duffers who have no experience of inner city schools. It offers no practical advice for teachers at the sharp end other than plan better lessons. For this pile of useless nonsense the man was given a knighthood!

]]> By: Educationally challenged http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-894 Educationally challenged Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:24:37 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-894 Oldandrew 'the driving lesson' allegory is a stroke of genius. I agree with everything you have written in the 'the driving lesson revisited'. Back in the sixties and seventies when pupils failed they weren't working hard enough, now it seems that if pupils fail the teachers aren't working hard enough. It's time for a serious debate about education, but that won't happen while we have the two main political parties trying outdo each other on the standards debate by introducing 'Enron style' accountability systems for schools rather than tackling the real issues - over complicated funding structures, class sizes, inclusion, social deprivation... Oldandrew ‘the driving lesson’ allegory is a stroke of genius. I agree with everything you have written in the ‘the driving lesson revisited’. Back in the sixties and seventies when pupils failed they weren’t working hard enough, now it seems that if pupils fail the teachers aren’t working hard enough. It’s time for a serious debate about education, but that won’t happen while we have the two main political parties trying outdo each other on the standards debate by introducing ‘Enron style’ accountability systems for schools rather than tackling the real issues - over complicated funding structures, class sizes, inclusion, social deprivation…

]]> By: classroom discipline http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-884 classroom discipline Sat, 31 May 2008 18:50:45 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-884 [...] it now because it, and the reaction to it, illustrates some of the recurring themes of this blog.http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/Small L.A. Unified campus showing large gains Los Angeles TimesThe success of the Student [...] [...] it now because it, and the reaction to it, illustrates some of the recurring themes of this blog.http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/Small L.A. Unified campus showing large gains Los Angeles TimesThe success of the Student [...]

]]> By: Betty http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-848 Betty Wed, 14 May 2008 18:44:07 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-848 I love the driving story. It hits so close to the truth about the way a lot of kids see things. It's all about them, and if something goes wrong, it's not their fault. I love the driving story. It hits so close to the truth about the way a lot of kids see things. It’s all about them, and if something goes wrong, it’s not their fault.

]]> By: Melica http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-846 Melica Tue, 13 May 2008 21:29:49 +0000 http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2008/05/12/the-driving-lesson-revisited/#comment-846 Thanks for pointing out the driving instructor piece - funny but so true. The phrase 'low-level disruption' really annoys me - it makes it sound like something mildly irritating but which doesn't really affect things - but the sort of behaviour it describes can means a whole lesson goes down the pan. And the next one. and the one after that. There IS a lot of denial about behaviour, and a lot of putting the onus on teachers to sort it out. Like so many things, it's something caused by society which we are expected to put right! Thanks for pointing out the driving instructor piece - funny but so true. The phrase ‘low-level disruption’ really annoys me - it makes it sound like something mildly irritating but which doesn’t really affect things - but the sort of behaviour it describes can means a whole lesson goes down the pan. And the next one. and the one after that. There IS a lot of denial about behaviour, and a lot of putting the onus on teachers to sort it out. Like so many things, it’s something caused by society which we are expected to put right!

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