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	<title>Comments on: Bad Idea for Dealing with the Behaviour Crisis #4: Have More Vocational Subjects</title>
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		<title>By: Newsisgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newsisgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very idea of 'vocational qualifications' that are 'worth somethines  to employers' IS a 'second tier'.  Are academic qualifications &lt;b&gt;designed&lt;/b&gt; to be useful to employers?  They are so only, I hope to heavens, indirectly.


As soon as you are &lt;i&gt;training&lt;/i&gt; people to meet the needs of employers you are not educating.  Employers don't want educated workers, they want workers with the required 'skills'.

To me the difference is immense, and I base my argument for this difference mainly on Plato's Republic, with its idea of a three-tiered society (and a corresponding three-tiered self).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very idea of &#8216;vocational qualifications&#8217; that are &#8216;worth somethines  to employers&#8217; IS a &#8217;second tier&#8217;.  Are academic qualifications <b>designed</b> to be useful to employers?  They are so only, I hope to heavens, indirectly.</p>
<p>As soon as you are <i>training</i> people to meet the needs of employers you are not educating.  Employers don&#8217;t want educated workers, they want workers with the required &#8217;skills&#8217;.</p>
<p>To me the difference is immense, and I base my argument for this difference mainly on Plato&#8217;s Republic, with its idea of a three-tiered society (and a corresponding three-tiered self).</p>
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		<title>By: lilyofthefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilyofthefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day I'll find something on here I disagree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day I&#8217;ll find something on here I disagree with.</p>
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