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	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Psi</title>
		<link>http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2007/03/11/unsolved-mysteries-of-teaching/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Psi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 12:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an adjunct to the "Cain" thing, and people not knowing about the Bible, my friend's wife was chatting the other day with a woman who asked after the new baby. Friend's wife responded that baby was well, and that they were calling him Adam (just like the few people who aren't calling their kids Jack).

Woman responded that she didn't much like "these modern names"...

...

All the more amazing because this conversation took place in a church immediately after a service. I promise I am not making this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an adjunct to the &#8220;Cain&#8221; thing, and people not knowing about the Bible, my friend&#8217;s wife was chatting the other day with a woman who asked after the new baby. Friend&#8217;s wife responded that baby was well, and that they were calling him Adam (just like the few people who aren&#8217;t calling their kids Jack).</p>
<p>Woman responded that she didn&#8217;t much like &#8220;these modern names&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>All the more amazing because this conversation took place in a church immediately after a service. I promise I am not making this up.</p>
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		<title>By: mrfish</title>
		<link>http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2007/03/11/unsolved-mysteries-of-teaching/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>mrfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and with regards to 3; In many primary schools the kids sit around group tables, all happily not working together. Today's school even had children positioned so their backs are always to the teacher. Yummers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and with regards to 3; In many primary schools the kids sit around group tables, all happily not working together. Today&#8217;s school even had children positioned so their backs are always to the teacher. Yummers.</p>
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		<title>By: mrfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work supply and was (mildly) surprised to meet a year three girl called "Lolita" the other day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work supply and was (mildly) surprised to meet a year three girl called &#8220;Lolita&#8221; the other day.</p>
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		<title>By: oldandrew</title>
		<link>http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2007/03/11/unsolved-mysteries-of-teaching/#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>oldandrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I am unsure whether your list was meant to be serious or not."

Obviously it was meant to have some humour value. I do know what RE teachers do: they make kids colour in pictures of festivals.

"As a teacher in an averagely dificult school I would respond as follows"


Don't claim to be in a difficult school and then say things like:

"I dont have classes that sit there and do nothing. If I were SMT and a eacher came to me and said the kids sit and do nothing I wouldn't believe them either."

You clearly don't work in a difficult school. I think most teachers could quickly find a class in their school doing nothing without searching too hard. (The cover list is usually a good place to look.)

"What sort of teacher is this?"

It was a teacher who had taught for several decades in several different countries, who has been a year head and a head of department, but who had the misfortune to have an appalling class and no support from senior management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am unsure whether your list was meant to be serious or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously it was meant to have some humour value. I do know what RE teachers do: they make kids colour in pictures of festivals.</p>
<p>&#8220;As a teacher in an averagely dificult school I would respond as follows&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t claim to be in a difficult school and then say things like:</p>
<p>&#8220;I dont have classes that sit there and do nothing. If I were SMT and a eacher came to me and said the kids sit and do nothing I wouldn&#8217;t believe them either.&#8221;</p>
<p>You clearly don&#8217;t work in a difficult school. I think most teachers could quickly find a class in their school doing nothing without searching too hard. (The cover list is usually a good place to look.)</p>
<p>&#8220;What sort of teacher is this?&#8221;</p>
<p>It was a teacher who had taught for several decades in several different countries, who has been a year head and a head of department, but who had the misfortune to have an appalling class and no support from senior management.</p>
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		<title>By: Visitor</title>
		<link>http://oldandrew.edublogs.org/2007/03/11/unsolved-mysteries-of-teaching/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am unsure whether your list was meant to be serious or not. As a teacher in an averagely dificult school I would respond as follows


1 People in the UK are free to name their children whatever they wish. The idea that Cain means murderer seems a bit daft.

2 I dont have classes that sit there and do nothing. If I were SMT and a eacher came to me and said the kids sit and do nothing I wouldn't believe them either. What sort of teacher is this?

3  Up and down the county kids sit in pairs and do excellent work. Sit a nuisance kid on their own. If they are all nuisance kids when s1t in pairs, see 2 above.

4 Maybe because they are educating them.

5 Why do you set a different standard for pupils than you set for yourself?

If you can make stupid statements then why can't they?


6 Teach RE.

I believe you suggest you are a practising teacher.Why do you think it acceptable to make comments such as these on a public forum.

Cayne made a valid point and you simply posted another daft answer.

I know there is pressure to put "something" on a blog, but maybe there are times when you just need to say "gone for lunch" and wait until you have something worth blogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am unsure whether your list was meant to be serious or not. As a teacher in an averagely dificult school I would respond as follows</p>
<p>1 People in the UK are free to name their children whatever they wish. The idea that Cain means murderer seems a bit daft.</p>
<p>2 I dont have classes that sit there and do nothing. If I were SMT and a eacher came to me and said the kids sit and do nothing I wouldn&#8217;t believe them either. What sort of teacher is this?</p>
<p>3  Up and down the county kids sit in pairs and do excellent work. Sit a nuisance kid on their own. If they are all nuisance kids when s1t in pairs, see 2 above.</p>
<p>4 Maybe because they are educating them.</p>
<p>5 Why do you set a different standard for pupils than you set for yourself?</p>
<p>If you can make stupid statements then why can&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>6 Teach RE.</p>
<p>I believe you suggest you are a practising teacher.Why do you think it acceptable to make comments such as these on a public forum.</p>
<p>Cayne made a valid point and you simply posted another daft answer.</p>
<p>I know there is pressure to put &#8220;something&#8221; on a blog, but maybe there are times when you just need to say &#8220;gone for lunch&#8221; and wait until you have something worth blogging.</p>
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		<title>By: Barries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't taught a Jezebel yet
(well I have taught a few actually but no one called Jezebel)  but I have taught a Lolita. She was one too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t taught a Jezebel yet<br />
(well I have taught a few actually but no one called Jezebel)  but I have taught a Lolita. She was one too.</p>
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		<title>By: oldandrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldandrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't normally reply to comments on my blog. However the comments that have all but called me a racist for suggesting that you shouldn't name your child as a murderer deserve some response.

All the Cains and Kanes I have met are White British and I'm fairly certain they weren't followers of any "other religion" unless you count Chavs as a faith group.

It is misguided to give your child the name Cain without finding out who Cain was. But this is a criticism of ignorance not a complaint that people aren't Christians. In the same way I would argue that it would be wrong to call your child "Dracula" regardless of whether you have read the novels of Bram Stoker or watched the films of Christopher Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normally reply to comments on my blog. However the comments that have all but called me a racist for suggesting that you shouldn&#8217;t name your child as a murderer deserve some response.</p>
<p>All the Cains and Kanes I have met are White British and I&#8217;m fairly certain they weren&#8217;t followers of any &#8220;other religion&#8221; unless you count Chavs as a faith group.</p>
<p>It is misguided to give your child the name Cain without finding out who Cain was. But this is a criticism of ignorance not a complaint that people aren&#8217;t Christians. In the same way I would argue that it would be wrong to call your child &#8220;Dracula&#8221; regardless of whether you have read the novels of Bram Stoker or watched the films of Christopher Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: Cayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unsolved Mysteries of Teaching? I am thinking unsolved mysteries of the narrow minded ethnocentric? SFTB you seem to forget that as one earlier and wise commenter pointed out, "not everyone reads the Bible"....(pause for dramatic gasp).......you seem to have stooped to the poor level of an uninformed elementary student who has sat at the dinner table one two many times after the children were excused to listen to the conversation of two equally dimwitted folks wish for the days of yesteryear when children had normal names like Robert and Mary (although she was a virgin that gave birth - this may be too taboo for even you SFTB). Your closed-mindedness is frightening. RETIRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unsolved Mysteries of Teaching? I am thinking unsolved mysteries of the narrow minded ethnocentric? SFTB you seem to forget that as one earlier and wise commenter pointed out, &#8220;not everyone reads the Bible&#8221;&#8230;.(pause for dramatic gasp)&#8230;&#8230;.you seem to have stooped to the poor level of an uninformed elementary student who has sat at the dinner table one two many times after the children were excused to listen to the conversation of two equally dimwitted folks wish for the days of yesteryear when children had normal names like Robert and Mary (although she was a virgin that gave birth - this may be too taboo for even you SFTB). Your closed-mindedness is frightening. RETIRE</p>
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		<title>By: lilyofthefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilyofthefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Syb - I would try it if it didn't sound so much like appeasing a kid who could clearly cooperate if arguing the toss weren't more amusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Syb - I would try it if it didn&#8217;t sound so much like appeasing a kid who could clearly cooperate if arguing the toss weren&#8217;t more amusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Syb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the last scenario:

I found the best responses to be

+ I heard you.

+I saw you.

+ I don't argue w/ kids.

or, in a particularly hard case, ask the runt (one on one) "On a scale of One to 10, what would it take for us to co-exist in this classroom this year (or similar wording, dependent on age of runt.)

The kid will usu respond fairly low (a three is usu a high number) So whatever # the kid gives you, "respond w/, "What can I do to make that a 9 or 10?"

Kid will say, 'You pick on me.' or "You give too much work."

To which you respond w/ something like, "Okay, I won't pick on you. I will try extra hard this week. Why not sit on the front row center so I remember our promise?"

"Oh? Too much work? OK, why don't you Just do the odd numbers until we feel you are ready to keep up w/ yr peers?"

egggggcetera

Anyhoo, those responses worked well for me in over three decades, all garade levels/subjects eggggcept 1st grade.

Good Luck. Let me know if you ever try it- the outcome

Syb

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last scenario:</p>
<p>I found the best responses to be</p>
<p>+ I heard you.</p>
<p>+I saw you.</p>
<p>+ I don&#8217;t argue w/ kids.</p>
<p>or, in a particularly hard case, ask the runt (one on one) &#8220;On a scale of One to 10, what would it take for us to co-exist in this classroom this year (or similar wording, dependent on age of runt.)</p>
<p>The kid will usu respond fairly low (a three is usu a high number) So whatever # the kid gives you, &#8220;respond w/, &#8220;What can I do to make that a 9 or 10?&#8221;</p>
<p>Kid will say, &#8216;You pick on me.&#8217; or &#8220;You give too much work.&#8221;</p>
<p>To which you respond w/ something like, &#8220;Okay, I won&#8217;t pick on you. I will try extra hard this week. Why not sit on the front row center so I remember our promise?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh? Too much work? OK, why don&#8217;t you Just do the odd numbers until we feel you are ready to keep up w/ yr peers?&#8221;</p>
<p>egggggcetera</p>
<p>Anyhoo, those responses worked well for me in over three decades, all garade levels/subjects eggggcept 1st grade.</p>
<p>Good Luck. Let me know if you ever try it- the outcome</p>
<p>Syb</p>
<p>nmlb.blogspot</p>
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